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Vivinavi Los AngelesDrilling injuries to tongue and gums in dentistry
- #1
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- ドリル
- 2021/06/08 03:19
I recently injured my tongue and gums drilling with a drill during a cavity treatment at a Japanese American dentist in Torrance. I was a little concerned about the way the doctor used the drill during the treatment. I thought it might be dangerous to be so careless. During the treatment, I didn't notice the injury because of the anesthesia, but I noticed it a few hours after I went home. The injury is not that big, but since I injured the side of my tongue, it hurts when I hit my teeth while eating and talking.
Since the pain was stronger on my tongue, I didn't notice it easily, but my gums were also cut by about an inch. I noticed that the gums were almost turning into mouth ulcers.
I told the dentist that I was injured, but they said that I would be seen 5 days after the injury,
I would think that after that many days, I would have recovered quite well,
but even if I went to see the dentist,
I would be sent home, ! thinking that it is almost healed already. I feel that it is useless to go there.
What would you do ??This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #11
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- さつき
- 2021/06/12 (Sat) 10:51
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The lawyer should be able to give you an hour of free consultation.
Call every one of the Lighthouse lawyers.
An hour is quick, so the key is to keep what you ask simple.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #12
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- 薮
- 2021/06/12 (Sat) 13:09
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You can write reviews on Yelp and the like as normal, so I don't see a problem with writing the dentist's name here.
We should share the information to avoid the same victims in the future ?.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #13
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- まさか・・・
- 2021/06/12 (Sat) 19:50
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If it's JOY in Torrance, it must be limited ?
I think it's a dentist who used to be a sister, but her sister went to another state ?.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #14
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- 薮
- 2021/06/12 (Sat) 20:28
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International Airport ?.
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #16
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Japanese people have a habit of apologizing immediately, but
in the U.S., if you make a mistake, you are admitting your mistake, which puts you at a disadvantage, so you never apologize. To avoid this, it is better to choose a good dentist based on yelp and word of mouth. I had a bush doctor in Japan and he tore my teeth to shreds.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #17
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# 12 , 13 , 14 , 15, 16
Thank you.
It will be a long story, but I will tell you the progress, etc.
From dentistry, I cannot treat you as a patient in the future. I have been informed that my relationship as patient and dentist will end 30 days from today.
I have been asked to sign a consent form for a refund of treatment fees and related documents, but is there any deadline by which I have to sign this form ?
Also, after signing this form, is it prohibited to post my opinion on such a forum? ?
I wanted to get a Japanese translation, but I was told "I am not a legal expert and cannot translate." and I have to translate it myself, and
I also have a stomachache from the stress of several emails with the dentist, so if it can be done in about 1 ~ 2 weeks, I would like to do so.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #18
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Until the very end, there was no apology for hitting him with the drill and injuring him, nor a word of condolences for asking about the condition of the area.
Even though we are a litigious nation, as a human being, if I accidentally injured someone, shouldn't I at least say I'm sorry
If there is a rule against saying that, shouldn't I at least ask how he is healing
and ask "How is he now ? recovering? ? "How are you recovering ??
Normally, I would not complain about a minor injury, but
I had a lot of questions about the cavity treatment.
I noticed the injury when I got home, so I called the dental office and told them I was injured this time.
Due to his advanced age, his former family doctor, who retired at the end of the year, told him
before his retirement, "In the back left, there are 2 , small cavities of size that can be left alone for 3 years.
Brush and floss well and take care of it." He advised.
I decided to start the year with nerve treatment and crowns at this dental visit, and
I decided to treat this small cavity recently because it would be financially difficult if the cavity progressed to nerve treatment again in the future.
So, the treatment was done with many points that did not add up.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #19
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1, I was told to email the x-rays from my previous family doctor, which I did, but neither the nurse nor the doctor has seen them.
If they had seen it, they would have known which area of the teeth to focus on.
"The previous doctor told me it was the back left."
but the x-rays I took showed only 3/5 of the tooth at the very back.
I think that's where you need the most ? ? ?
The x-rays are not taken again and the diagnosis begins.
2. The doctor looks at the x-ray and says
"I think the second from the back has a cavity.
"The blackened cross-shaped area here looks suspicious. I won't know until I open it." I say.
I took an x-ray, but I can't tell without opening the cavity ! ? ? ?
2 , Even if I leave it alone for 3 years, I can't tell without opening a small cavity ・. ・ ? ?
3, "I heard it was a back tooth, so I thought the tooth at the back of the first tooth was decayed !
It was the tooth next to it !," I said,
! ! This area of the tooth at the back is also suspicious. I'll have to open this one up too.
This one is also next to each other, so we'd better take a look at it while we're at it," said the doctor. The doctor said.
He had only mentioned the second tooth from the back until I spoke, but after hearing my words, he added one more tooth to be treated.
Here I am skeptical, ''Is the cavity really there ・ ・ ・ ? ''.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #20
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4, treatment cost not presented before treatment
I asked the receptionist about the cost of treating cavities at the end of the previous crown
$180 for a small one and $270 for a large one, not up to the nerve but large. She said that the doctor would determine the size of the in-between ones.
The sentiment during the treatment was that since they added one more, the two small cavities would be 180 , and the 180 would be 360 ・ ・.
If I hadn't told them, they wouldn't have added it ・ ・ ・," he regretted.
→ The account exceeded my expectations to $470.
After looking at the x-rays, he couldn't say clearly "I have a cavity here and here !" ・ ・ ・.
5. I felt uneasy about the doctor's handling of the instruments during the previous crown as I felt during this cavity treatment.
"It might be dangerous if you do it so roughly ・ ・ ? like that."
Even with her eyes closed during treatment, she could feel the doctor's breathing, sighing, and careful handling of the instruments.
In the case of the previous crown, he sighed when he had to re-fit the crown after it had been fitted, and
when he was grinding with sharp instruments, I could feel that he was irritated and wondered "Is everything all right ・ ・? I remember feeling uneasy.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #21
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6、 This dental office has rows and rows of patient chairs, each separated only by a shelf, so the patients next to me can hear everything we are saying.
This time I sat in the patient chair closest to the waiting room.
After the treatment, the doctor said in an inaudibly low voice
"I know you can't hear me now because you are under anesthesia, but in 2 , 3 days the pain will be..."
where ? there is no subject ・ ・. But I thought it must be about the treatment area, because I just finished treatment.
Unlike his small voice earlier, he speaks louder,
"I opened two of them, and as Mr. Drill said, ! ! they were both cavities !."
He then explained to me, looking at the pictures taken during the treatment,
that if I flossed the treated area, it would bleed, but it would get better in a few days, so I should not worry !.
I thought, "Oh, you were talking about flossing earlier," but I was wrong.
After the anesthesia wore off after I got home, for some reason my untreated tongue hurt. I had injured it with a drill and it was bleeding.
The side of my tongue was injured and it hurt when it hit my teeth while eating and talking.
I was only concerned about the pain in my tongue, so I noticed the 1 cm wound in my gums after it almost turned into a mouth sore.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #22
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7, I emailed the dentist about my injury and how I felt during the treatment,
"I am very sorry to hear that, as I have treated you in good faith and with precision and fairness."
I received a reply.
"Sincerely" ・ ・ My idea of sincerity is that if I caused an injury, I would properly apologize to the patient while checking the wound and prescribe disinfectant or a smear to prevent mouth sores, and the doctor did not apologize or care for me.
"Precise" ・ ・ "We won't know until we open it up" even after x-rays were taken, and one more tooth to be treated with one word from me, a layman.
"Fair" ・ ・ A story told in a quiet voice with no subject matter.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #23
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8, In addition, the doctor's e-mail said,
"How are your teeth doing ?
I will check your tongue for damage ?
I would like to see you as soon as possible, so come to the 00 office tomorrow and the Torrance office after that.We'd like to do it as soon as possible.
Both are already full, but please let us know so we can make time for Mr. Drill." And
I told him I was injured and he asked me about the condition of the teeth I had treated and now it's not your place to ask about the condition ? ?
After all, this dentist never once checked my tongue and gums.
However, my tongue is healed today, and my gums, although they have mouth sores, are enough to be completely healed in two more days, so
I don't think it's a big deal to check the wounds at first,
but at first he told me to check the wounds
"I'll be there as soon as I can, and I'll bring the shortfall of just under $50 from the other day's payment."
The next day he replied, "You don't have to pay the shortfall.
If you would like me to check your tongue, please come tomorrow.
Tomorrow is the doctor's day off, so if you are coming, please let me know the time."
You are going to end up injuring me and not even examining the wound ・ ・ Where is the good faith that the doctor said he had? I wonder ? I felt that.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #24
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9, "On the rare occasion that an instrument may touch a non-affected area during treatment and cause damage, we will be honest with the patient about it on the spot and
we will never hide or ignore it."
"We are never vague or sloppy about the treatment or the teeth we have treated."
He also emailed.
"I told you honestly on the spot" and "I would never hide anything from you" ・ ・ ・ I think it is hard to say that I told you this honestly and without hiding when it was explained in a voice so small that it was hard to hear and without subject.
"And never in a vaguely worded way." ・ ・ ・ Even after the x-rays were taken, "I'll have to open it ! to see..." and "This tooth here looks suspicious too..." is generally ambiguous ? don't you think?This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #25
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And I thought that even in this email, you never write that you apologize.
You say you will be honest with me, but how will you tell me there without an apology ・ ・ ?
"During the treatment, the drill hit me and I have a scratch on my tongue and gums and they are bleeding. You won't notice it now because of the anesthesia, but the pain should be gone in a couple of days." ?
I think most patients would feel that ? "What?
"I'm sorry. The drill hit my tongue and gums during the treatment and caused a wound ・ ・ that will hurt for a couple of days. I am sorry.
I have just disinfected the area, but I will also prescribe an ointment to prevent mouth ulcers from forming.
Most patients will say "Yes".
We are all human beings and we all make mistakes.
Even so, since we are working in the tight space of the mouth, we expect the drill to hit something other than the affected area.
I think it is important for the doctor to be sincere to the patient in such a situation.
I was looking for a new family doctor, but alas, not here.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #26
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# 8 , 9 , 10, 11
Thank you all.
It has been a long story, but I have told you what has happened so far.
Here in the U.S., we are often told not to apologize ! even for car accidents, but
everyone who has ever hit me has opened with "sorry" or "it's ok ?".
Maybe it happened because I was hit from behind when I was stopped waiting for a red light.
If I was at fault, I should apologize,
which is the way it should be, I think.
Yes ! I will refer to yelp and reviews more in the future and find a good dentist next time !
Thanks everyone ! ! !This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #27
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- 国際空港
- 2021/06/13 (Sun) 21:46
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I went to the one in Orange County before, but they didn't explain the cost of the first visit to new patients and didn't have a good attitude, so I stopped going there.
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #28
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- Mumu
- 2021/06/14 (Mon) 13:02
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I think a good revue is attached to a doctor who is just personable, regardless of how good or bad the treatment or work is.
Especially in the mouth, you can't see yourself. Both during and after treatment.Good job, Dr. Drill. May you find a good dentist !. This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #29
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#27,28
Thank you.
I decided to come here after seeing a Japanese American magazine highly recommend this place on their blog, but today an acquaintance told me that there was a later story on the blog ! and when I looked at it,
she said that she also had a painful experience here.
However, although the degree of pain was different, unlike my time, there was an immediate apology.
I was disappointed again today that she would apologize so quickly to someone with a strong delivery capability.
In the future I will gather lots of information and then go
to dentistry.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #31
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- やぶ
- 2021/06/16 (Wed) 22:11
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Brian dental in Tustin was also the worst.
The doctor was Korean and his wife was the office manager. The wife was very friendly but the doctor was terrible and the anesthesia was painful. When I told him it hurt, he said I know but that's the way it is
I had a tooth inserted but it was too short and the gum line was too sharp
It was hard to say but I pointed it out lightly and he said it's not like I smile with my gums showing.
I was in no mood to say more, so I had to accept it, but now I regret it.
After that, I found a really good dentist and was shocked that the anesthesia didn't hurt at all. The doctor said that if you give it very slowly over a few minutes, it doesn't hurt at all. I could tell that Brian didn't want to take the time and trouble.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #33
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- Neko
- 2021/06/18 (Fri) 12:24
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#31 Yabu-san
Nice to meet you. I am looking for a dentist for a tooth that needs to be
extracted right now.
If you don't mind, could you please tell me
which good dentists
you have met since then?
Please do.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
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