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Old age in Japan or the U.S. ？.

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#1
  • pooske
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  • 2022/09/22 23:14

End of life, but which is better ？

I've heard that in the U.S. it's hard to have that kind of money, that you need more than $1 million over 10 years to be miserable in a nursing home. So if you move in when you are in your 70s and live to be 90, you would need $2 million.
On the other hand, in Japan, if you have 50 million yen for 10 years, they will take care of you in a decent place. 100 million yen for 20 years.

The current view is to be based in the U.S. until you have some freedom to move around, and then sell to Japan.

The food would be better than the US facility, and since all the kids are back in Japan, they would come to see us once in a while.
What do you all think?

I retired at 55. I will receive a pension from Japan starting next month and from the U.S. next year I will receive a pension from the U.S. I am 61 years old.
90% of my assets are in the US. I have a residence in Japan and live in both.

What are your candid thoughts?

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#36
  • 仕事だけの引きこもり？
  • 2022/09/25 (Sun) 17:02
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There are many good things about the country: family, friends, vast nature such as beaches and mountains, climate, good working environment but you can earn a lot of money and have time for hobbies.

It's kind of a waste of life to live in a country you don't like until you retire.

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#39
  • 仕事だけの引きこもり？
  • 2022/09/25 (Sun) 19:03
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And I have a good job, which is why I have a good personal life. LOL

I guess I came all the way to America to work in the black ？.

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#41
  • pooske
  • 2022/09/25 (Sun) 19:53
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SJDummy

Thank you for your valuable experience. It is true that Japan is a unique country in terms of human relations. Also, people are quick to compare. I think there is also a disposition to not easily accept strangers.

Hawaii is an option, but as long as we can both stay out of trouble with our spouses, it is fine, but eventually we will have to go into an institution.

Our father had my mother take care of him downstairs until he died last month, which we can't do. We have asked my mother to go into an institution if it becomes too hard for her.

We have heard that if she becomes immobile, the level of care she needs will be higher and not only more expensive, but the number of facilities that will accept her will be greatly reduced.

No, I am just worried.

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#44
  • ハワイ元在住者
  • 2022/09/25 (Sun) 23:04
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Everything is expensive in Hawaii.
You should expect to pay 1, 5 to 2 times as much.
The islands are far from the continent and vulnerable to natural disasters.

If I could make enough money to hire a care giver 24 hours a day, I would like to stay in the US, but I don't have kids, so maybe Japan.

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#45
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/09/26 (Mon) 06:49
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＃ And I have a good job, which is why I have a good personal life.

Is there a stipulation as to what kind of work constitutes a good job?

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#48
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  • 2022/09/26 (Mon) 13:59
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Regulations or nothing, don't you usually figure it out for yourself ？
It's not a good job unless you think it's good, no matter what others say.

I wrote that it is a good job because it is a job I like and it pays well and treats me well. 45 what is your idea of a good job?

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#51
  • Zappo
  • 2022/09/26 (Mon) 15:16
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I wouldn't give up the beach, climate, and a house with a pool.

Hawaii would be nice, but I think I'll just do vacations. I hear it's a pretty small society.

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#53
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/09/26 (Mon) 15:53
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I'm asking because I don't know.

I make a living collecting empty cans and bottles on garbage collection day.
I'm relieved to have a good job.

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#56
  • トホホ
  • 2022/09/26 (Mon) 18:32
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If you're happy, that's fine.
You are a healthy person who lives in a shared apartment for the rest of your life, and you are doing your best to live in poverty and without time to spare.
If no one loves you and you don't love them, that's fine, as long as you're happy.
You enjoy sushi without paying a tip.
That was so good!

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#57
  • pooske
  • 2022/09/26 (Mon) 21:16
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I watched "Morning Glory 2022 Special" on an illegal site. At what point I may enter a nursing home, but I keenly felt that I would like to send a message to my family and decide where to go, like Saburo Tokito did. I will return to Japan temporarily next month and would like to look around. I assume it will still be more than 10 years away, but I thought I gave my children some idea of what to expect. Even if I rarely come to see them, I would like to finish my last days in Japan with my two children. My wife and I do not need to be in the same facility. I am sure we would both be concerned if we were in the same facility. If they were in the U.S., they would have a hard time. I would like to end my life with as little inconvenience to my children as possible.

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#58
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/09/27 (Tue) 06:32
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Autumn is coming and I wonder what others are doing

Living in a small Japanese society, I wonder about others

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#60

Other states are ？.

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#61
  • あのね
  • 2022/10/03 (Mon) 10:32
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Japan

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#62
  • おっさん
  • 2022/10/03 (Mon) 15:40
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Vietnam, Thailand

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#63
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/10/04 (Tue) 10:44
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Japanese who live in the U.S. seem to aim for Japan in their old age

Japanese who live in Japan Japanese who live in Japan aim for a foreign country in their old age.

Either way, it is better to aim for a place where it is easy to live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl2mZbnr3EU&t=5s

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#65
  • 隣の芝は
  • 2022/10/04 (Tue) 13:12
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The grass looks greener on the neighbor's lawn.
From Japan, foreign countries look good.
Japanese who live in California have seen many bad things about the U.S.,
so they look at it with a kind of cold eye. They tend to think that Japan is better and they want to live there.
Either way, if you choose one, the other one looks better, so I think it's best to have both.

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#66
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/10/04 (Tue) 15:54
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＃ You don't know if it's livable or not until you live there
If you don't know if it's livable, then you can live there for 3 months on a tourist visa, which is valid for 3 months
and draw your conclusions.
You will fail in the Butzke production.

＃ It is easy to think that Japan is better and you want to live there.
What is better about Japan?

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#67
  • Q
  • 2022/10/04 (Tue) 21:55
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>>Either way, if you decide on one, the other one looks better, so I think both are best

You may think so when you are young, but
you may not think so when your body can no longer do what you want and your strength is declining.

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#70
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/10/05 (Wed) 08:20
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It's normal for elderly people to look for other places to live if they can't survive in Japan.
It seems they don't know any other country besides Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuQ6WRn_qaw

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#71
  • 倍金万
  • 2022/10/05 (Wed) 08:49
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#65 Neighbor's Lawn,

You are absolutely right. In the past, I came here because I thought the US would be a good place to live, but I could not get a great job because I was not on a proper visa. He came to the U.S. in the past because he thought it would be easier to live here, but he couldn't get a good job because he didn't have the proper visa.

However, he came back to Japan and started working again, saying that he liked the American life better. But he came back to Japan and started to work again. After repeating this, he disappeared. He was a poor man.

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