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Permanent residency after returning home

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#1
  • 帰国後永住権
  • mail
  • 2022/01/09 14:22

Please let me know if you know of any.

I am currently considering returning to Japan. I know that I can return to Japan and still receive Social Security in Japan after retiring from the US, but what will happen to my permanent residency?

1 . Can I still receive Social Security in Japan even if I give up my permanent residence?
2 . If I want to keep my Permanent Resident status, do I have to return ? to the US once a year?
3 . If I stay in Japan without doing anything, will I automatically lose my permanent resident status?
4 . I have heard that the permanent resident status remains the same unless I voluntarily renounce it, but
if I eventually come back here with the permanent resident status after 5 or 10 years ( if I am still alive and well ) can I come back
with that permanent resident status? Can I come back with that permanent residency 。。。。

I am considering returning to Japan to care for my parents, but after they pass away, if I am still healthy, I would like to come back to the US. I would like to receive the pension in Japan, but I am wondering what will happen to my permanent residence after that... I have so many questions. If anyone knows anything about this, I would appreciate it if you could tell me.

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#2
  • GC持ってるけど
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 15:22
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I thought I had to live in the U.S. for six consecutive months or I would lose my permanent residency.

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#5
  • 弁護士
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 16:01
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You should check with a lawyer for more details, but if you are going back to your country, you need to return it or if you really need to go back to Japan for longer than 6 months, you need to go through the procedures or you won't even be able to enter the US.

An acquaintance of mine tried to enter the U.S. via Hawaii on a tourist visa without a permanent resident visa, and was told that he could not enter the U.S., but if he insisted, he was told to pay for the entry.

I heard that Hawaii is more strict than Los Angeles.
You never know when the immigration system will change. If you are lucky, they may let you go, but it is better to go through the procedure properly.

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#6
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 16:11
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If you go from permanent resident to citizen

you can leave the US for any number of years and come back with no problem.

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#8
  • 嘘つくの?
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 17:04
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What visa will I return to Japan with after renouncing my Japanese citizenship?

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#9
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 17:37
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Do foreigners need a visa to go to Japan ?

https://usfl.com/2017/03/column/nenkin_rogo/108774

Normally foreigners can stay up to 90 days for a short stay.

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#10
  • ん?
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 17:40
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90 days will not be enough time to take care of my parents.
Do you leave Japan every 90 days?

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#11
  • gachann
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 18:10
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If you lose your Permanent Resident status, you can still get Social Security in Japan. Call 800-772-1213 8am - 7pm, M-F or visit Social security administration 20000 Mariner ave 150 Torrance CA 90503. If you don't want to pay 30% tax, you need to file a non-residential return with the IRS when you leave. 
2. You must reside in the US for at least 180 days per year to be eligible for permanent residence. If you file a special application, you do not have to return for 2 years, but you can only apply for that twice, 2 years and 2 years only.
3. permanent resident status expires naturally if you have not resided in the U.S. for more than 180 days.
4. I have seen children taken to a separate room at immigration, even if their residence abroad was only a few days past 180 days.

The point is that permanent residence is valid because you are living there, so if you are not living there, as others have said, we recommend that you get US citizenship and then return to Japan. And in Japan, you should live as a foreigner. Once you have applied for U.S. citizenship after having returned to Japan for a long time with a special application, there is a contradiction and also you cannot apply for U.S. citizenship immediately, so I think it is better to get citizenship from the beginning to avoid problems. The current citizenship is a corona issue, and it will take a year and a half to get it, and I will be able to get it in March next year.

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#12
  • gachann
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 18:19
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Americans can stay in Japan for 90 days without a visa, but I have heard that it currently takes about 4 months to get an alien residence permit in Japan, so I would recommend that you apply for one while you are in the US. You should also switch to a Japanese driver's license immediately after you return to your home country, since you will not be exempt from the technical exam if you don't do so immediately.

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#13
  • gachann
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 18:23
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Exemption from the technical examination is for holders of an expired Japanese driver's license.

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#14
  • 不思議
  • 2022/01/09 (Sun) 18:39
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What is a Foreign Residence Certificate Permit ?
The Foreign Registration ?

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#15
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 07:06
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# 10
If you can stay 90 days without visa
before going to Japan
prepare now for measures to stay more than 90 days after entering Japan.

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#16
  • では
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 07:27
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↑ I guess that means you can't enter the country as a tourist.

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#17
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 08:46
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# 16
I don't care if Americans can't enter Japan as tourists ?
I don't care about visas that allow Americans to stay in the US
it's a foreigner's problem.

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#18
  • ここのボケ年金生活組
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 09:12
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You said you're going to retire and return to Japan. You're talking about a tourist visa that requires you to leave the country in 90 days or some such nonsense.

# 1 can receive a pension no matter where you stay, so you should just go back home as a Japanese citizen and not do anything unnecessary.

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#19
  • 遺産凍結
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 09:50
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If a permanent resident dies in the US, it will take a lot of time and effort to unfreeze your assets.
You should have transferred your assets to your US citizenship children or wife before you die.

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#20
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 10:35
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In post #1, if you currently hold a Glynn card and
return to Japan permanently, you can return to Japan as a Japanese,
then return your Glynn card to the US.

If you leave the US for a long period of time, your Glynn card becomes invalid.
If you are absent from the U.S. for more than one year in a row,
you will be considered to have abandoned your permanent resident status, and you should consider applying for a
re-entry permit.

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#24
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 11:43
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If I were still healthy I would consider coming back to the US. And
hypothetical post.

After 5 or 10 years of staying in Japan, the Glynn card itself is invalid.

I don't know how many years later
1 , I come back to the US after my parents pass away.
2 , Considering returning to Japan permanently.

I don't know what my plans are in 5 or 10 years
but if I don't change my mind about coming back to the US then
I will think about how I can return to the US in 5 or 10 years
without problems for that purpose.

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#25

#11 Gachan is correct, if you are abroad for more than 180 days, you can no longer enter the US.
( You can no longer come back once a year like before )

As several people have said, if you get US citizenship, you would normally be able to come and go, but
now it is a corona disaster and you cannot enter the US. If you become a citizen, you cannot enter Japan. Foreigners, whether for
business or pleasure, are no longer granted visas. Even those who already have visas, such as students, are not allowed to go to Japan.

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#28
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 16:44
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If you had a Japanese passport and a Glynn card
you could live in Japan for 10 or even 20 years, until you die.

Think about how you could come back to the US from Japan with a 5 or 10 year GC hold.

But I don't see you coming out, Topi!

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#29
  • 帰国後永住権
  • 2022/01/10 (Mon) 21:21
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Thank you all for all the information. I am very sorry for the delay in writing again. Actually, one of my family members became a person of intense contact and was quarantined, so I was in a flap ( I tested negative, but )

I guess everyone was interpreting things to suit their own convenience, that if you enter the country once a year, you are fine, or that you have to voluntarily renounce your permanent residence status in order for it to expire, etc. Maybe they were interpreting it for their own convenience. 。。。。 And I was also trying to believe in my own convenience ( sweat )
but I really appreciate a lot of information from everyone here. I am glad I asked here.

Thank you gachann for the detailed information. It is a pretty clear indicator to make a choice going forward.
And the asset freeze thing was also helpful, as I had no idea about that.
I would like to thank everyone else who imagined and wrote about my situation like this.

Now that there is corona, it seems that Americans are not allowed to enter Japan ( Sorry if I am wrong ) I cannot predict what will happen with corona in the future, so I was thinking that if possible, I would not take citizenship and would like to go to Japan with permanent resident status anytime. I was thinking that I would like to be able to go to Japan anytime I want with permanent residency. I can't imagine how long it will take to take care of my parents, and I can't be sure that it will be over in 90 days, so I am prepared to stay here for a long time. There are many other issues that I have to deal with, but for now, I am glad to know about the permanent residency after I return home.
Thank you all for your help.

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#36
  • pooske
  • 2022/01/22 (Sat) 22:51
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The point is what to do with Japanese citizenship after acquiring US citizenship. Frankly speaking, the Japanese side should not know. The U.S. side tacitly accepts dual citizenship. Therefore, they will not report to Japan that Mr. A has become a U.S. citizen.
How will you maintain your Japanese passport? If you have a residence in Japan, you can keep your residence card in Japan and pay your pension and National Health Insurance. Then you can renew your passport in Japan without any problem. Tax returns can be filed without income in Japan.
You will not be asked whether or not you have a GC when entering or leaving Japan. They don't even ask you where you are going. They do not even ask where you are going. You simply enter and leave Japan with your Japanese passport. In the U.S., you simply use your U.S. passport to enter and leave the country.
However, the U.S. side is very tax picky, and you must not make enemies with the IRS. Therefore, you must apply for a 1040 every year, even when you are living in Japan. However, there is a special exception for U.S. citizens living abroad. This is only theoretical.

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#37
  • pooske
  • 2022/01/22 (Sat) 22:59
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I will add a few more.
Whether you can obtain permanent residence again ? You cannot, but if you want to spend the rest of your life in the U.S., you should obtain citizenship as soon as possible. But if you get it, the procedure is quite troublesome if you don't want it anymore.
GC knows your departure date from the U.S., so the number of days will be calculated by that. If you go to Canada or Mexico by land, your departure date is not known. The U.S. side does not control it. We recommend the same route when you come back. Then you can return to Japan from Canada or Mexico. However, you need to have a place of residence in the U.S. for your annual tax filing. However, these too are becoming more and more difficult. Computer management is a problem.

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#38
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 06:59
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# 37

# If I can get to Canada or Mexico by land
from Japan, where can I go by land ??

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#39
  • 青丘
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 14:07
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It was about 4 years ago, but a friend of mine who had both American and Japanese citizenship returned to Japan.
He kept his dual citizenship because he had a house in the US and he might go back to the US, but when he came back to Japan, somehow his dual citizenship was discovered by the Japanese immigration and he was forced to choose one or the other on the spot.
I wonder if the information between the US and Japan is connected now, and if they can tell by the same name, date of birth, etc. ?
My friend chose US citizenship and is now living in Japan as an American while working as a permanent resident of Japan.
He says it is a hassle to have to apply for permanent residency every few years, but he seems to have no problems.

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#40
  • 日本では認められていない二重国籍
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 15:55
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> A friend of mine who had both American and Japanese citizenship returned to Japan.
> He kept his dual citizenship

He called himself a dual citizen w

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#41
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 18:22
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My friend entered the Corona Disaster with a Japanese passport without any problem.

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#42
  • は?
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 18:28
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#41
So what ?
It's obvious.

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#43
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 19:05
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My friend with US citizenship entered Japan with a Japanese passport
Of course, yes. Good job.

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#44
  • 帰国後の永住権
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 22:43
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Thanks for the advice, pooske. I learned a lot.
I have children born and raised in the U.S., so I have a U.S. address, and I will keep in mind not to make enemies with the IRS.
I don't know how long I will be caring for my parents, so I can't make any decisions, but based on your advice
I will decide how to take care of myself in the future. Thank you very much.

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#45
  • コピペくん
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 03:18
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Nationality Act Article 11 A Japanese citizen shall lose Japanese nationality if he/she acquires the nationality of a foreign country at his/her own volition.

Article 20 of the Nationality Act In cases where notification is made pursuant to the provisions of Article 3, paragraph (1), a person making a false notification shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not more than one year or a fine of not more than two hundred thousand yen.

Article 18 of the Passport Act A passport shall cease to be valid if it falls under any of the following items.
(i) If the holder of the passport dies or loses Japanese nationality.

Article 23 of the Passport Act Any person who falls under any of the following items shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not more than five years or a fine of not more than three million yen, or both.
(i) Any person who has obtained a passport or travel document pertaining to an application or request under this Act by making a false statement in a document concerning such application or request or by any other wrongful act
(vii) Any person who has exercised a passport or travel document that has lost its validity

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#47
  • ブラックリスト
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 06:20
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Suppose, for example, that a husband, after acquiring citizenship, does not renounce his Japanese citizenship even though it is required by law.
The wife became a permanent resident as the spouse of the husband who became that U.S. citizen. And when the wife's passport is about to expire
and she goes to the consulate to renew it, the wife's permanent resident card has information that her husband's citizenship made him a permanent resident.
So they find out that the husband has become a U.S. citizen but has not gone through the process of renouncing his Japanese citizenship.
The consulate orders him to renounce his Japanese citizenship. But ! the husband continues to ignore it. ( Thinking that he would never find out )
the consulate will send him several advisories. If he continues to ignore it, the consulate will send the husband's information to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Then the husband returns to Japan, unaware that he is in such a situation.
♯ This is the example that 39 wrote. Immigration has the information that the husband is a citizen, so they will ask him to choose
either one on the spot, because Japan does not allow dual citizenship. This is because Japan has a law that does not allow dual citizenship.

When you receive your citizenship in the U.S., you will go through an oath-taking ceremony, where you will be told to
immediately renounce your citizenship if your country does not recognize dual citizenship. This is fine because the U.S. recognizes multiple citizenships, but for those who have become citizens
it is properly stated as above.

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#48
  • 実際
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 07:40
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It is said that only about 1 in 10 people honestly go through the process of renouncing their Japanese nationality.

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#49
  • は?
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 08:09
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#43
You didn't mention dual citizenship in #41, idiot.

What do you mean by "Good work", are you not Japanese speaking ??

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#50
  • ムキになりすぎる器の小さい日本人
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 08:15
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↑ You can tell from the flow of the story.

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#51
  • 豆知識
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 08:56
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They say if you have a small vessel, you have a small vagina.

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#52
  • ネガティブな発言はしないが得
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:05
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> It is said that only about 1 in 10 people honestly go through the process of renouncing their Japanese citizenship.

If you were born in Japan, you can get your Japanese nationality back in a year or two if you apply. Why should you bother to renounce your nationality ??

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#53
  • 自己紹介乙
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:41
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51
You are. LOL.

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#54
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:47
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# Japanese nationality can be regained in one or two years.

Since he has not cancelled his Japanese nationality,
he cannot get it back as it is
without first going through the process of renouncing his Japanese nationality and cancelling his Japanese nationality.

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#55
  • そう簡単ではない
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 12:28
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There is no guarantee that a person who has once renounced Japanese nationality will be able to re-acquire Japanese nationality in 1 ~ 2 years.
An application for re-acquisition of nationality is submitted to the Ministry of Justice, and then an examination begins.
If the applicant is found to be in violation or does not meet the requirements, even if he/she is a former Japanese citizen, he/she may not be able to re-acquire Japanese nationality.
You should not be overconfident that anyone can get their nationality back if they apply. In fact, there are people whose applications have been rejected.
Nationality is not something that can be so easily ( freely ) acquired & or abandoned. It is something that is determined by the law when there is a reason to
properly abide by the laws set by the government and when there is no other choice but to re-acquire Japanese nationality.

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#58
  • 現実
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 15:06
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When you become a US citizen and try to renew your Japanese passport
you are asked if you are a citizen of another country ? but you have to tell a lie
at that point it becomes a serious crime and you are arrested and taken to the police station when you get your passport.
You may think you are naive because you are a former Japanese citizen, but from the Japanese government's point of view, it is the same as a North Korean or Chinese person trying to obtain a Japanese passport under false pretenses
There is a court case of a person who was caught violating the Nationality Law.
The court fined him for failing to follow the procedure to revoke his Japanese citizenship, because the period between the date he received his US citizenship and the date he applied for his passport was illegal. Of course, it is now impossible to revert to Japanese nationality!

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#59
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 15:25
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↑ You ain't got time for that.

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#60
  • 昭和
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 16:39
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You can tell at a glance by looking at the entry and exit stamps in your Japanese passport. If it's been open for more than 3 months, there should be a visa stamp, especially if the visa stamp is embossed
Even if you're not busy, you can at least look at it
You shouldn't tell people because they'll laugh at you.

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#62
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 17:26
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Even if you use two different passports,
you will be stamped with a return stamp when you return from abroad with a Japanese passport and an exit stamp when you leave the country.

Check in at the airport at the check-in counter with your U.S. passport.
If you submit your U.S. passport when leaving the country, there is no record of your entry ?.

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#64
  • 嘘ばかり
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 17:53
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I haven't found anyone.

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#66
  • 現実はお咎めなし
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 18:07
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Naoko Nozawa's Wikipedia page proudly lists her dual nationality.

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#67
  • そーいや
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 18:15
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#63
Mother of Showa ?
Whenever I talk about dual citizenship or having two passports, people write it off as if it were a serious crime. There were a lot of people who use both. But they said they couldn't easily go back to Japan because of Corona, and they couldn't get a passport made in Japan.

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#68
  • そーいや
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 18:16
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#62
Why don't you just get a Japanese passport when you leave Japan?

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#75
  • 付け足し
  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 00:46
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> Immigration has the information that this husband is a citizen, so they are told to choose one or the other on the spot.

I think this would be someone who was taken to another room for some reason. From the beginning, immigration does not know who has a case like this husband's, and he was taken to another room because he happened to be caught up in something at immigration. I guess the reason is that when they examined him in detail there, his name was on the blacklist. Once your name is actually on the blacklist, no matter how many times you travel back and forth with your Japanese passport after becoming a dual national, you will not be able to renew your passport when it expires. The blacklist contains the names of people who have acquired other nationalities but have not yet completed the procedures for renouncing their Japanese nationality. This information is shared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. No matter where in Japan you try to renew your passport, they will not let you renew it because you have acquired U.S. citizenship. And since he is already a US citizen, he is required to renounce his Japanese citizenship, not to choose one or the other.
Those who voluntarily choose to become U.S. citizens and acquire U.S. citizenship are considered to have lost their Japanese nationality at that time. And those who have not gone through the renunciation of nationality procedure are treated as "those who just haven't gone through the procedure yet".

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#80
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 10:21
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Once your name is actually on the blacklist, your visa application will be denied if you are in the US

You can enjoy the atmosphere of another room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4azpgnM0xOQ

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#81
  • 無意味なネタ
  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 10:52
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So ?
can I renew my passport ? I can't ? I can't

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#83
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  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 11:09
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Obligation to Notify of Acquisition or Loss of Japanese Nationality
The Family Registration Law requires notification of acquisition or loss of Japanese nationality , within a certain period of time, and , based on this notification, the family register will also reflect the fact of acquisition or loss of nationality.

In case of acquisition of nationality : Article 102 of the Family Registration Law ( It is necessary to acquire nationality in accordance with the Nationality Law in advance. )
In case of loss of nationality : Family Registration Law, Article 103

Gain or loss of nationality occurs automatically, so to speak, when the requirements stipulated in the Nationality Law are fulfilled , and is not dependent on whether or not the notification act is performed ( except in some cases ) , If the notification is not submitted, , there are many cases where there is a difference between the person's perception and the fact , but in any case, the decision is based on the fact , for example, , even if the person has not submitted notification of the loss of nationality, there are cases where the person has already For example, even if the person has not submitted a notification of loss of nationality, the person has already lost his/her nationality, or , conversely, , the person thought he/she had lost his/her Japanese nationality, but in fact he/she has not.
Therefore, , those who have acquired U.S. citizenship of their own volition have , lost their Japanese nationality at the time of acquiring U.S. citizenship, but , if they do not report the fact of loss of nationality by notification of loss of nationality, they are treated as if they had Japanese nationality when only their family register is seen. , If you do not report the fact of loss of nationality by notification of loss of nationality, it will be treated as if you have Japanese nationality, and you may get a copy of family register ( extract ) or , you may be issued a Japanese passport by mistake, but , the fact of acquisition or loss of nationality has already occurred and this fact always takes precedence. , It is important to note that having a family register or a Japanese passport does not necessarily mean that you have Japanese nationality.
Since family registers are compiled only for Japanese nationals, , it may seem that family registers are a database of Japanese nationals, but , family registers only reflect the facts that have been reported, not , those that have not been reported. The family register does not reflect the facts that have not been reported.

* A person who has lost his/her nationality is deleted from the family register when a notification of loss of nationality is submitted, and , this reflects the fact of loss of nationality in the family register as well. , Since the family register does not exist after this, , a copy of the family register ( or an extract ) will not be issued even if requested ( and a copy of removal from the family register will be issued ) as a record of the family register.
Importance of Notification of Acquisition or Loss of Japanese Nationality
Acquisition or loss of Japanese nationality has an extremely serious impact on the legal status of the individual and his/her relatives, , and also on the economic activities of interested parties in addition to relatives, , and it is necessary to accurately reflect the facts in the family register , Therefore, as explained above, the Nationality Law and the Family Registration Law stipulate the obligation to report the fact of acquisition or loss of nationality to the diplomatic mission abroad or the family registry office within a certain period of time.
On the Internet and elsewhere, , there is some misinformation based on misunderstanding, such as that it is possible to obtain a Japanese passport even after acquiring U.S. citizenship by withholding the fact that one has U.S. citizenship when applying for a passport, and that one can have dual nationality as it is ,. However, , as we have explained, , if a Japanese national acquires U.S. citizenship, he/she automatically loses Japanese citizenship at the time of acquiring U.S. citizenship, and , if he/she obtains a Japanese passport without ( disclosing that fact ) he/she has acquired U.S. citizenship, he/she will be punished by law. ( If you think that a foreigner fraudulently obtained a Japanese passport by making a false declaration, , you may understand its illegality. ) So , please do not do this kind of act.
Also, , if you change your status ( marriage, birth, etc. ) while concealing the fact that you acquired US citizenship ( = or lost Japanese citizenship ), , these procedures will be based on a false ( fact ) and you will not be able to obtain US citizenship. , If the fact of loss of Japanese nationality is found out, all procedures based on untruths after the fact of loss of nationality will be invalid , and this will have a great impact on the legal status and economic activities of not only the applicant but also his/her family members and other related persons. , You should not make a false declaration with an easy feeling.

Case 1 : Mr. A held only Japanese nationality, but , immigrated to the U.S. and acquired U.S. citizenship. However, , he did not report the loss of his nationality, so his family register did not reflect the fact that he lost his nationality , and when he requested a copy of his family register at his domicile office, he was able to obtain it without any problem. , I applied for a Japanese passport with a copy of my family register ( and did not declare my U.S. citizenship when I applied ) but since I was able to obtain it, I , thought I was a dual national of Japan and the U.S.
→ Because he lost his Japanese nationality when he acquired U.S. citizenship , Mr. A has only U.S. citizenship and is not a dual national. The objective fact is that , a foreigner obtained a Japanese passport by filing a false application ,. Obtaining a passport fraudulently or using a fraudulently obtained passport is punishable by law, so , you must promptly return the passport and submit a notification of loss of nationality.

Case 2 : Mr. B, a Japanese man, , acquired U.S. citizenship and lost Japanese nationality as Mr. A in Case 1, but , married an American woman a short time later without reporting it and , registered the marriage at the nearest Consulate General. , After that, , a child, C, was born, but Mr. B thought he was a dual national of Japan and the U.S., so he submitted C's birth certificate to the Japanese Consulate General, , and thought that it was reflected in his family register and C became a dual national too.
However, , it was later discovered that Mr. B had lost his Japanese nationality.
→ As a condition for Mr. C to acquire Japanese nationality upon birth, , one of his parents must have been a Japanese citizen at the time of his birth. However, , Mr. B acquired U.S. citizenship of his own volition before Mr. C's birth , and lost his Japanese citizenship at that time, so , both parents were not Japanese citizens at the time of Mr. C's birth. C's Japanese nationality is invalid.
Because Mr. B did not submit notification of loss of nationality, , Mr. B and Mr. C are listed in the family register as Japanese nationals, but , this is an incorrect entry that is not based on fact and must be corrected ( by Mr. B submitting notification of loss of nationality, Mr. B Mr. B is expelled from the family register ( and loses Japanese nationality in the family register ) and , Mr. C has never had Japanese nationality, so , the family register is corrected as it is an error to have him listed in the family register in the first place. ) .
*If Mr. C has a family and his child Mr. D is born, ( Mr. B's grandchild ) , Mr. D's Japanese nationality will also be invalidated.
Finally,
the acquisition or loss of Japanese nationality is an important act that directly affects , the legal status of an individual, but , if done without the correct knowledge, the result may not be what you intended, and , may even affect the legal status of family members and others close to you. On the other hand, , the law is a very important act that directly affects the legal status of an individual. On the other hand, once the legal requirements for the act are met, , it will take effect regardless of the person's intention.
If you are considering acquiring a nationality other than Japanese, , please make a careful decision after thoroughly researching the legal implications of acquiring such a nationality.
In addition, , if you have already acquired a foreign nationality of your own volition and , believe that you have lost your Japanese nationality, , please submit a notification of loss of nationality at the nearest diplomatic establishment or domicile office , so that your family register will reflect this fact.
*The cases listed here are based on , Frequently Asked Questions about gaining or losing nationality in the family register. , In order to determine the actual gain or loss of nationality, it is necessary to understand the circumstances of each individual case ,. , If you are not sure about your nationality, please contact the Consulate-General.

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#86
  • 面倒なだけ
  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 12:52
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> When a notification of loss of nationality is submitted, the person who has lost his/her nationality is to be erased from the family register , and with this, the family register also reflects the fact that he/she has lost his/her nationality.

Most people do not submit the notification of loss of nationality because they do not like this.
Even if you don't submit it, you can live as a normal Japanese without any problems if you return to Japan and then return your American citizenship at the American Embassy in Japan. In other words, honest people lose money.

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#91
  • 同意
  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 18:57
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If you report loss of nationality, your Japanese nationality will disappear.
If you do not report loss of nationality, your Japanese nationality will not disappear.
So, even if you become an American citizen, you are in the minority.

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#94
  • ウケる
  • 2022/01/25 (Tue) 19:30
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> naturally extinguished.

naturally w

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#95
  • ニューヨーク
  • 2022/01/26 (Wed) 10:10
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When I applied for a passport in New York, I was given this to sign

Acknowledgement

I , have read the following statement from the officer in charge and , understand its contents accurately , and hereby apply for issuance of a passport to Japan.
I hereby apply for the issuance of a passport.

1. If a Japanese citizen , acquires the nationality of a foreign country by his/her own choice, he/she loses , Japanese
nationality. ( The person who has lost his/her Japanese nationality , shall notify the person in question within one month after the spouse or relative within the fourth degree of kinship becomes aware of the fact of , national
loss of nationality ( notification , If the person who should have made the notification is outside the country
on the day he/she becomes aware of the fact, he/she must make
notification of loss of nationality within three months ) from the day he/she becomes aware of the fact. ( Family Registration Law, Article 103 )

3 Penalty for applying for , or receiving issuance
of a Japanese passport despite loss of Japanese nationality
( 1 ) Crime of False Passport Application ( Subject to imprisonment for not more than 5 years
or a fine of not more than 3,000,000 yen, or both, under Article 23(1)(i) of the Passport Act ).
( 2 ) Misrepresentation in a passport ( Subject to imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than
200,000 yen, according to Article 157, paragraph 2 ) of the Penal Code.

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#96
  • 意味不明
  • 2022/01/26 (Wed) 15:36
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If it disappears naturally, there's no need for procedures ?.

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#97
  • pooske
  • 2022/01/28 (Fri) 21:48
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Do not be indebted to the consulate. They must obey the law once they know. In other words, we can only recommend that you revoke your nationality.
The former president of Peru is a dual citizen. He was able to escape to Japan because of it.
To make this possible, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a notice. To make this possible, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a notice saying that those who have dual nationality without their own will can keep it. If you look it up, it should be there.
This does not apply, but that means this is a gray world. If they ask, it is illegal, but what if they don't know ?
It is not easy to get them to revoke their nationality. So they force you to go through the process of voluntary revocation. They threaten that it is illegal and that there are penalties.
Exchange of information between Japan and the U.S. ? Not possible, there are privacy issues. For example, it is impossible unless you have cheated on your taxes or committed a major crime.
There is a procedure for that. But do you think they would bother to do that? ? Government officials don't have that much time on their hands.
Also, what if you have a certificate of residence in Japan and pay a pension ? If you are in Japan for the time being, you should follow the proper procedures.
The only thing that matters to the immigration authorities of any country is what goes in and out of your country. It doesn't matter where you go.

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#98
  • pooske
  • 2022/01/28 (Fri) 21:54
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U.S. citizenship is not so easy to return. You need to hire a lawyer and go through the process. It is not something you can just say "I don't need it" and return it.
Especially in the U.S., there is the issue of assets. Also, there are crimes, etc., that need to be deliberated on. Either way, you need to be prepared in any situation. Do not make decisions regarding the law based on easy ideas.

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#99
  • pooske
  • 2022/01/28 (Fri) 22:09
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For US assets, I recommend Trust, which is the best procedure and does not require Provate. There should be a way to do it yourself if you look it up on the net.
I hired a lawyer.

Regarding the Green Card, I know because I use the air. If you go to Canada or Mexico by land, there is no check on the US side. But, there will be a check when you come back. However, bus and train transportation is not allowed. You have to walk or drive. So now the GC has an expiration date.

The US side has a list of criminals. So if the name and age are close, they check. Japan is the same.

Now everything is difficult because of the corona disaster. It will take time to get citizenship.

If your children are in the U.S., it is always possible to reacquire permanent residence through your children's citizenship.

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#100

Mr. pooske
I have a simple question.
I read that I can get a passport in Japan without reporting the loss of citizenship in the U.S., but in that case, since there is no entry stamp to the U.S., does it mean that I have to get a new passport for the loss of passport instead of renewing it?

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#101
  • 疑えるかどうか
  • 2022/03/04 (Fri) 17:30
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You need proof of passport loss ?

Verbally lost passport, even if you are told.

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#102
  • は?
  • 2022/03/04 (Fri) 18:26
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How do they prove the loss?

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#103
  • 疑えるかどうか
  • 2022/03/05 (Sat) 06:33
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↑ Verbally prove that you have lost your passport.

I lost my passport verbally in front of a staff member.
That's a big deal.
It's easy if you can get a staff member who will respond with, "We'll take care of reissuing your passport right away.

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#111
  • blueberry
  • 2022/03/08 (Tue) 00:00
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How do people with dual citizenship renew their passports after obtaining U.S. citizenship?
If they renew in Japan, they don't have a US entry stamp, do they?
If I renew my passport on my first return to Japan after citizenship, will I still have an entry stamp?
Will I be required to present my green card in Japan in that case?

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#112
  • 無国籍者の流れ者
  • 2022/03/08 (Tue) 06:56
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Japan requires you to show

your US visa at the airline check-in counter when you leave Japan

check in with your Japanese passport out,

present your US visa

Why don't you present your passport?

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#113
  • 渡り鳥
  • 2022/03/12 (Sat) 10:52
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# 111

Dual citizenship after obtaining U.S. citizenship is a violation of the Nationality Law.

In Japan, if an adult man or woman changes his or her nationality of his or her own volition,

his or her Japanese nationality is cancelled when he or she acquires foreign nationality.

Because he/she has not applied to the government office for cancellation of nationality,

he/she mistakenly believes that he/she has dual nationality.

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#114
  • 飛脚
  • 2022/03/15 (Tue) 08:36
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Does a person who has become an American citizen now need a visa to go to Japan?

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#115
  • 紅夜叉
  • 2022/03/15 (Tue) 10:43
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114

If I want to know something, I look it up myself. Asking on a message board shows the extent of your knowledge.

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#119
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/15 (Tue) 11:37
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# 116

If you are an American born in the U.S., you may have no problem, but

if you are a former Japanese citizen who became an American citizen

when you go to the consulate to apply for a Japanese visa

you have to renounce the cancellation of Japanese nationality. If you are told that you need to renounce your Japanese nationality, we can't give you a visa. What will you do if you are told

that you have to renounce your Japanese nationality?

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#123
  • gachann
  • 2022/03/15 (Tue) 15:06
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The application form for a Japanese passport has a check box for citizenship of another country, so once you obtain U.S. citizenship, you cannot renew your Japanese passport. 

Like Americans, you can stay in Japan for 3 months without a visa, but if you want to stay longer than that, you need a foreign resident permit. 3 months is required, so you should apply first before returning to Japan. 

It is unpleasant to be treated as a foreigner in Japan, but if you keep lying and hiding, you may not be able to become Japanese again when you really want to. Because you will become a criminal.

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#124
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/15 (Tue) 16:24
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The only time you are treated as a foreigner in Japan is when you are asked to show your ID.

You will only be seen as a Japanese when walking around town.

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#125
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 08:01
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# You need a residence permit; you need 3 months, so you should apply first and then return to Japan.  We cannot give you a visa unless you go to apply for it and renounce the cancellation of your Japanese nationality. If you are told to do so, then you will have to deal with the following

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#126
  • 何言ってんの
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 08:26
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After that,

why do you ask me that ? of course I will obey you.
Besides, if you took citizenship, you automatically lost your Japanese citizenship.

Did you take citizenship without knowing that?

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#127
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 10:40
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# 126

So I want to know how someone who recently
became an American citizen and is now going to

Japan on a Japanese visa will respond.

What are you getting so hot about ??

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#128
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 11:47
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Go to the consulate and ask them and it will be solved.

What are you asking here.

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#129
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 12:55
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What do you know by asking at the consulate ?

Consulate staff ・ We cannot give you a visa unless you have completed the renunciation of cancellation of Japanese nationality.

People going to Japan ・ I see. Then I will consider it and come back.

You need time to think about it, not to decide something important on the spot.

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#131
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 13:19
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If you have citizenship, you are no longer a Japanese citizen.
If you want to return to Japan legally, just do as the officials say.

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#132
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 16:56
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#130

So if a Japanese who became an American citizen
cannot be issued a visa unless he/she goes through the process of renouncing the cancellation of Japanese citizenship.
I'd like to know what people who have become US citizens and are going to Japan think about this.

# 130 , # 131

Are you an American citizen who is going to Japan?

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#133
  • 💩
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 19:43
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132
A person is a person, a stranger is a stranger.

Old bucktooth turtle doesn't seem to have very good taste.

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#134
  • トモ311
  • 2022/03/16 (Wed) 20:55
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Let me answer your question about Tutsan.
I also called the consulate and was told to remove my family registration before applying for a visa.
Then I thought about it and realized that removing one's family register is the same as renouncing one's nationality.
In other words, people born and raised in Japan don't have a piece of paper to prove their Japanese nationality.
The only proof that you are Japanese is your family register.
The family register department at the government office has no way of knowing that I became an American citizen unless I notify them, and I haven't removed my family register, so it must still be there.
I think that if I have a family register, it means I have a nationality.
Of course I know that Japan does not recognize dual citizenship.

So, back to the question, did you remove your family register to get the visa?
I guess it is correct to say that I did not.
I did not remove my family register because I was still attached to Japan, and I felt that my identity was there.
Also, there was a possibility in my mind that I might return to Japan in the future.
I have heard that the procedure of living in Japan will go more smoothly if I have my family register in order. Anyway, I'll leave my family register as it is for now and hope that Japan will soon accept American travelers without visa like before.

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#135
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/03/17 (Thu) 07:28
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If a Japanese person changes his/her nationality to American and has to obtain a visa
to go to Japan,
the person who changed his/her nationality should think about what to do and come to a conclusion.

Some people cancel their trip, others have to go because of family reasons,
there are various reasons, so they should think about it and come to a conclusion.

But I don't see any posts from people who have cancelled their nationality and got a Japanese visa.

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