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Vivinavi Los AngelesDual nationals Temporary return with corona disaster
- #1
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- でんです
- 2022/06/01 23:28
If anyone has a dual nationality who has recently returned to Japan, please let me know.
Until now ( before Corona ) I did the following.
To purchase tickets, enter US passport information as an American
Show US passport at ticket counter ( Show Japanese passport if asked )
To enter Japan, show Japanese passport
< When returning to the US >
Show your US passport at the ticket counter
Show your Japanese passport when leaving Japan
Show your US passport when entering the US
But in the Corona Disaster, Americans need a visa.
So I have to do many procedures as a Japanese.
Is the following method sufficient?
To buy ticket, enter Japanese passport information as Japanese
Show Japanese passport at ticket counter
To enter Japan, show Japanese passport
< When coming back to US >
Show your US passport at the ticket counter ( ? Even though you purchased with a Japanese passport ? )
Show your Japanese passport when leaving Japan
Show your US passport when entering the US
If I am wrong, I would be very grateful if you could point it out.
I am trying to call the airline, but the waiting time is too long and I can't get through.
Thank you very much.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #33
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I think you will be fine as you have been.
I don't know if I can be of any help since I have never been back since the corona disaster ・ ・ ・.
Now foreigners need a visa to enter Japan, so they will have to enter and leave with a Japanese passport.
When you come back to the U.S., check in with your US passport, and I think you can do the same when you enter the U.S.
> It was interesting to read that some people always get upset when it comes to dual citizenship.
I really agree with you.
I don't know why they get so pissed off when they are not bothering anyone ?
On the contrary, I want to support Japanese people who have dual citizenship.
In addition to the current declining birthrate, it is a loss to the Japanese nation when talented Japanese go abroad and lose their Japanese citizenship once they own the nationality of that country.
75% of countries around the world allow dual citizenship.
In this global society, when I see consulates that still do not recognize dual citizenship and are desperate to take away Japanese citizenship, as well as numerous critical comments, I am saddened to see that the Japanese people still have deep-rooted island-nation roots.
However, I believe that Japan will come to recognize dual citizenship in less than 10 years.
I know there will be those who will say "Oh well", but please think of it as a whisper in the wind and get over it with ease.
Please don't ever sign the notice of loss of Japanese nationality !
I support you wholeheartedly.
Please have a safe trip to Japan ~ !This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #37
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- 昭和のおとっつぁん
- 2022/06/16 (Thu) 07:49
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# Consulates are trying hard to take away Japanese citizenship
If the Japanese people don't obey the law, I guess the consulates will take the lead in obeying the law.
If the consulate says, "You have dual citizenship, yes, we will issue you a passport with no problem,"
the people will not obey the law, the consulate will not obey the law, there is no law at all,
even if you kill someone in downtown, it is not guilty by self-defense, it is a mess.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #38
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- てか
- 2022/06/16 (Thu) 11:10
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# 33
I also think that one day Japan should allow dual citizenship.
> Consulates are trying hard to take away Japanese citizenship
but this ↑ is different ~. Consulate officials don't make the laws. They are simply doing what they are told by the MOFA
to do. And that's what consulates are supposed to do.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #39
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- 倍金萬
- 2022/06/17 (Fri) 08:34
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> Consulate officials don't make the laws. They are simply doing what they are told by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
That is correct. But one of the things they are doing in a casual manner is probably the need to enforce
Japanese law on those living abroad who are violating Japanese law.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #40
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Den-desu-san
If you have two passports, just use your Japanese passport and go back to your country.You are all snickering about dual citizenship. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and consulates will only try to take away your nationality in cases where you took it later with citizenship.
Why not just use your remaining passport differently? You can't renew it next time.
After that, renunciation of nationality is on an individual basis.
On the other hand, Naomi Osaka's case became a hot topic.It has solved the concerns of many dual nationals and their parents who have both American and Japanese citizenship.
Naomi Osaka declared her "choice of Japanese nationality" by the time she reached the age of 22, so her dual nationality is now officially recognized. This is because she is working to renounce her foreign nationality indefinitely.
By declaring her selection of Japanese nationality, , she has fulfilled her obligation to select nationality under Article 14, Paragraph 1 of the Nationality Law , but , whether she naturally loses her foreign nationality by this declaration of selection depends on the system of that foreign country. For those who have the nationality of a foreign country whose legislation does not allow for the loss of nationality upon this declaration of choice, , after this declaration of choice , they must strive to renounce that foreign nationality ( ) Article 16, paragraph 1 of the Nationality Act.
In the U.S., since multiple nationalities are allowed, one only has to "make efforts to renounce" and can stay as a dual national if left alone. Incidentally, the consulate has no right to refuse to issue a Japanese passport to a person who is in the process of declaring his/her choice. You can renew your passport for the rest of your life while you are in the process of making your choice.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #42
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- 昭和のおとっつぁん
- 2022/06/19 (Sun) 06:50
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#Because the next time you can't renew it.
If you can't renew your Japanese passport in the US,
you will go to Japan to renew it.
Even if you choose only good Japanese and US laws
# the consulate has no right to refuse to issue a Japanese passport to someone who is declaring his/her choice.
You can renew your Japanese passport because you still have your Glynn card.
Once you attend and complete the swearing-in ceremony, return your Glynn card and receive your Certificate, you are now a US citizen.
If you renew your Japanese passport in the U.S.,
you will not be able to renew it because you will need a valid visa proof for your stay.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #49
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You mean you are a legal dual citizen.
You can't just show both passports, Japanese and American ?.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #55
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- gachann
- 2022/07/02 (Sat) 09:42
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What Toby here is talking about is a crime, and even if you could, you shouldn't.... The country of Japan does not recognize dual citizenship, so when you acquire American citizenship, you " automatically lose your Japanese citizenship already". Therefore, entering Japan with that passport is a crime of forgery. It is the same level as entering Japan with someone else's passport. And the same crime is different in severity between an ignorant crime and a deliberate crime. Note that these days entry and exit from Japan is computerized, so there is a possibility that your history will be kept. Personally, I think it is too risky because the Japanese government does not give citizenship to criminals when they want to become naturalized in Japan in the future.
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #56
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- ボケ
- 2022/07/02 (Sat) 10:29
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You can only go back to Japan with a Japanese passport, so why don't you just use a Japanese passport instead of whining about it
If you think that's a risk, don't go back now
At this point you may get lucky, and who knows what will happen?This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #58
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- でんです
- 2022/07/11 (Mon) 15:53
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I have just returned to Japan, so here is a post-mortem report. I bought my ticket the same way I did before the Corona disaster, i.e., with an American passport, and then I could enter and leave the U.S. with my American passport and enter and leave Japan with my Japanese passport. In the past, I have been asked to show both passports at the check-in counter, but this time I showed only my Japanese passport at the American check-in counter and only my American passport at the Japanese check-in counter. Maybe the passport information at the time of passport purchase and the passport shown at the check-in counter do not have to match. I thought that perhaps as long as the names matched, it would be fine.
As an aside, entering Japan was really simplified! It was like it took 15 minutes from the time the plane arrived to the time we left the airport. Coming back to the US is almost like a coronary disaster. The number of infected people in Japan is increasing, but I felt that the world is slowly returning to normal. However, in Japan, masks were worn almost 100% of the time, even outdoors. On the other hand, in izakaya (Japanese style pubs), people ate, drank and chatted without masks in super close proximity. I was a bit tempted to ask myself if it is possible to get infected at an izakaya. This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #60
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- でんです
- 2022/07/11 (Mon) 15:55
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↑ Correction. It is "almost the same as before the corona disaster", not "almost the same as before the corona disaster."
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #61
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- もうすぐ帰国
- 2022/07/11 (Mon) 16:14
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↑ details helped
thank you😊This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #62
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- 昭和のおとっつぁん
- 2022/07/11 (Mon) 16:45
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Don't think that because someone else was able to do it, you can do it without problems.
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #63
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> #58Den's
What airport did you enter Japan from ? ! I am not sure if I should go to Haneda Airport or Narita Airport 。。。。。This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #65
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- ボケ
- 2022/07/11 (Mon) 18:19
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#58 This is Den
I can buy a plane ticket with an American passport, even though I don't have a visa.
they usually don't let you on the plane if you can't enter Japan
it's a rule that they don't let you back on the plane if you can't enter Japanit kinda smells like a lie This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #66
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- でんです
- 2022/07/12 (Tue) 02:03
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#62 Mr. Manikintan,
I entered and left Narita airport.
#65 Mr. Bokeh,
I can buy a ticket with my American passport; at the check-in counter at LAX, I showed my Japanese passport to get a boarding pass. ? I think the person at the check-in counter knew I was buying a ticket with an American passport, but as soon as I showed him my Japanese passport, he issued me a boarding pass. Of course, I also had a fast track, so I prepared that with my Japanese passport and showed the blue color of my application at the check-in counter. But this is not really relevant to you, is it? My apologies.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #67
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- 昭和のおとっつぁん
- 2022/07/12 (Tue) 06:31
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You should not willingly violate the law.
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #70
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- 無知
- 2022/07/12 (Tue) 09:20
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Whenever I arrange a ticket, I always enter my passport number and visa status.
You mean they will let me issue a ticket and board the plane even if I give a different ID at the LAX counter?
I wonder how they check if the ticket buyer and the passenger are the same person ? If they are different people, there could be a terrorist attack.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #73
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Japan is a spy paradise.
This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
- #77
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- 昭和のおとっつぁん
- 2022/12/20 (Tue) 10:13
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66
How can I leave the US and come back from Japan?
If I present my American passport at the check-in counter at the airport in Japan,
it may look suspicious because there is no entry record.
And vice versa, if I present my Japanese passport and it is not stamped with a visa for entry into the U.S.,
they may ask, "You don't have a visa for entry into the U.S.This text has been translated by auto-translation. There may be a slight difference between the original text and the translation. (Original Language: 日本語)
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