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Vivinavi New York私の友人がエイズ!
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- jj
- 2002/10/28 20:23
私の友人の黒人の友達がエイズだといって泣いていた。私が知ってるだけでも、そいつとえっちした日本人女性は40人以上はいる。今年になって10人以上はいる。どうしよう。
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Anonymousさん有難うございます。やはり、性とSEXは別となるとT.Dさんのおっしゃりたい事は気持ちは分かりますが、少し究極過ぎる気が致します。性で愛を深められるのは夫婦間だけなら何故、離婚があるのですか?失礼ですが奥様以外の方との恋愛経験が無いのですか?奥様以外を愛した事は無いのですか?全て、マニュアル通りの人生ですか?Anonymousさんの言うとおり昔のしきたりを重んじていてばかりでは新しい視野で物を観る事は出来ません。色んな角度から物事を観てみる事は必要だと思います。そして、失恋したり裏切られたりしながら人の傷みなどを理解できる大人になるのではないでしょうか?男女間での裏切りは性の前に人間性、モラルの問題では・・・。性行為はこの世に生まれた以上、与えられた自然の法則です。これから、どっちにしても子供は異性や性に自然に興味を持ちますが、少なくとも私は結婚までSEXをするなとは教えません。それより、避妊やエイズ防止、性の知識を教えます。そして、性や異性の事以外にも夢中になれる世界を養わせます。結局、今の入り乱れた若い世代の子は、全てではありませんが、恋愛や異性をひきつける事しか興味がないので、複数と関係を持つのです。その、若いエネルギーを発散させる場所や知識が無いからだと思います。その上で色んな経験をさせられる環境を親が与える事が必要だと私は、思います。話が反れてしまいまってゴメンナサイm(__)m。
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I never disrespected your family. It was just a question. You could've just answered, "Yes, they taught me moral," or "No, they didn't teach me moral." Well, it's good that you have found someone like me in the "entire universe." It seems that you even don't know how to argue. If you wanna "argue," get rid of all these dirty words. The use of these words tell people that you are not capable of pressing our perspective and that the only way to possiblly impose upon your opinion is by using your language that is not acceptable to intelligent people. You said that you are on the Dean's List. When you write a paper (don't tell me that you've never written a paper), do you use this kind of speech? Or, is it that you can be on the list even if you fail? Well, I'll tell you what. You are preoccupied. I actually didn't say that ALL men are garbage. I said, "men are...." I didn't specify quantity, so it means that I was talking in terms of generality. And one more thing. You are even worse. I said that men are garbage. But shit is even worse. I didn't say all men are shit.
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To Anonymous and Coyote.
The future gets only worse because people don't respect old traditions. It is a good thing that we have flexibility to incorporate "new" things. But it is only when the incorporation leads to a better future. For example, do you say that, because America obtained nuclear weapon (new thing) at the end of the WWII, the world is a better place now? It is true, according to some people (not me), that the war ended because of the nuclear bombing. But the U.S. government actually knew that Japan was about to surrender and that the use of the weapon was not necessary to end the war. America just wanted to use Japan as an experiment. I strongly oppose nuclear proliferation. But I'm just trying to illistrate that "incorporation of new things" does not always lead to better future. If there had been no nuclear weapon at the end of the war, many Japanese people would not have died and suffered.
I strongly and absolutely agree with Mr. T.D. Sex is one of areas that is getting worse due to an incorporation of new things. If one is really flexible, he/she can appreciate old values without a question. If we know a consequence of our actions, it is much easier to decide what to do. Of course, if a person A knows that he/she will be betrayed by a person B, for example, A will not date B. But the world is not simple. We don't know the consequence of your actions. If you believe that sex is a way to express "love," why are there prostitutes? Men are sex hunters. Women, may be except you, are not.
It is true, Ms. Coyote, that people betray each other by moral. But sex outside of marriage, as Mr. T.D. argues, is against moral. Go ahead and teach your child to have sex before marriage. Are you expecting to be a grandmother even if your child is still a teenager? And do you know the definition of marriage. It is defined as a man and a woman being unified as one. It is according to the law both in the U.S. and Japan. That's why we cannot marry as many people as we want.
To anonymous.
How can you say that the black men got AIDS from a woman? May be he got it from another man.
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I will add one more thing. I agree that people learn from experiences. I agree with you, Ms. Coyote, that we learn to understand other people's pain by actually going through betrayals and painful situations. But sex is not needed to experience love. Love is emotional. Sex is physical. Animals don't have sex becuase they "love" each other. If they loved each other, it's kinda scary... So you have a lover rather than your husband? Then why did you marry him? And how do you teach your child to aviod becoming pregnant and/or getting AIDS? Widely advertised way to prevent these is a use of condoms. But the prevention is not 100%. Or you tell your young child to take pills or insert these stupid tools inside her?
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ちょっと言わせていただきたいのですが... 愛っていったい今の男にあるんでしょうか。男っていったって今いるのはオスであって男性じゃないし、いつも性のことしか考えていない。 だから、”君のこと愛してる”とか言いながら、その女の子が自分のためにパンツ下げないってわかればすぐその子捨てて他の子見つけるだけ。もっとヒドイ場合、一応その子をとっておいてほかに見つける。それってすごく侮辱。多分そういったダラシナイ男は、”自分のこと愛しているなら俺のために何でもやれっ”て失礼なこと平気で言う。私も、結婚前にそういう事するの間違っているって思う。それに、ちゃんとした道徳を教えられないで育った子ってスゴークかわいそう。
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- 魔人V
- 2003/01/18 (Sat) 04:52
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暇つぶしに来てみたら、結構興味深い事書いてあったからちょっと答えよう。
"愛"と一口に言っても人によってその捉え方やあらわし方にはいろいろあるぜ。だから○っくすが愛情表現の一つ、という奴もいれば物理的な行動と心理的な行動で表すのが愛情だとしている奴もいる。それ以外にも身勝手な考え(押し付けや思い込み)が愛情表現だという奴もいる。まあこういう連中は論外だが。だからその言い方には感心できないな。
だからいつも性の事しか考えていないというムーミンの書き方は、俺には僻みにしか聞こえない。それから婚前交渉に関しての考えを自分なりに持つのは結構だが、それを最上とか自分の感覚の中で勝手に同情するのは(場合によっては)相手に対して侮辱にもなる。
よく考えてみてくれ。自分が逆に"そういうお堅い考えしか出来ない娘って、不幸よね〜"とか言われてみろ。ぶちきれるんじゃねえか?独り言のつもりでここに書いたのかも知れねぇが、自分がすでに愛のある男に対して失礼な事を平気で言っていることに気づいたほうがいいぜ。
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その黒人とSEXして移されちゃった子達、かわいそう…
相手を信じて避妊なしで、したんだもん。
日本の女の子は人を信じやすいと思う。でも、そろそろ自分を守るって事も考えなきゃだよね…。
辛いと思うけど、がんばって。
応援してます。
- #57
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あなたの方が浅いよ!深く考えてないのはあんただよ。そんな世間知らずじゃあ、ダメだよ。もっとよく考えな。
自己責任だよ!
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- 魔人V
- 2003/02/05 (Wed) 12:19
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久しぶりに覗いてみたら、しょうもねぇことやってんなぁ…。
俺のあとにカキコしたやつらは、結構カタい書き方や融通のきかねぇことしかかいてねぇな。短い文章じゃあ,100%自分の言いたいことはつたわらねぇとおもうぞ?#54を除いて後のやつらは口げんかをこんなところでやっているとしかみえねぇ。
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Here is a newly posted article about HIV and AIDS. Anyone who is interested in the topic should read this and get the knowledge of the deadly virus. After all, everyone should be aware of what kind of virus and disease you are dealing with and know how scary this thing is. I just wanted to share the knowledge and wanted you all to be concerned about it, so you can protect yourself better.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditions/02/12/hiv.rates/index.html
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そちらへ移る前に、ちょっと生の情報をキャッチしておこうと思って覗いたものです。こんな深刻な問題が取り扱われているとは思いませんでした。日本ではあまり考えもしなかった病気や自己責任、日本人のあり方について深く考えさせられました。それに加え、イエローキャブと日本女性が呼ばれる現実が本当にあるのだということにも。てっきりマスコミが誇張しているのではなどと軽く考えていましたが・・・。自己責任は確かに大事ですが、裏返すと自分を守れるのは自分だけだと言うことですよね。綺麗事を言っても仕方ないとはわかっていますけど、寂しいですね。しかし、安全に暮らすためにはそれが不可欠だということが良くわかりました。あともう一つ最後に綺麗事を言わせてください。言葉は中身が重要です。意見の衝突はあって当然だと思いますが、人を傷つける言葉や恫喝は人を遠ざけます。いくら正当性のあることをあとに付け加えても人間性が疑われてしまっては正直に誰も耳をかさないと思います。何を書いても自己責任の範囲で対処できることならかまいませんが、自分の尊厳を低めるようなことは自分でしないほうがよいと思います。私も気をつけたいと思います。
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男が悪いとか女が悪いとか、男は女を侮辱して女が悪いと責任を女に押し付け、女は男が悪い又は男を侮辱する。みっともねーー。あほだね。君達。お暇人たち。他にやることないの?
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話を戻しますが、トピ主さんもうその女の子たちには教えてあげましたか?俺が思うにそんなに親しくもない人とsexしちゃうような子は他の人ともしている可能性大なので早めに教えてあげるべきだと思います。被害が拡大する前に。まぁそれでも懲りない子もいるとは思いますけどね。
そもそも俺的には結婚する予定のない人(形式的なことではなく気持ち的なことも含めて)とのsexは避妊しろや、と言いたい。
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