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Old age in Japan or the U.S. ?.

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#1
  • pooske
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  • 2022/09/22 23:14

End of life, but which is better ?

I've heard that in the U.S. it's hard to have that kind of money, that you need more than $1 million over 10 years to be miserable in a nursing home. So if you move in when you are in your 70s and live to be 90, you would need $2 million.
On the other hand, in Japan, if you have 50 million yen for 10 years, they will take care of you in a decent place. 100 million yen for 20 years.

The current view is to be based in the U.S. until you have some freedom to move around, and then sell to Japan.

The food would be better than the US facility, and since all the kids are back in Japan, they would come to see us once in a while.
What do you all think?

I retired at 55. I will receive a pension from Japan starting next month and from the U.S. next year I will receive a pension from the U.S. I am 61 years old.
90% of my assets are in the US. I have a residence in Japan and live in both.

What are your candid thoughts?

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#5
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/09/23 (Fri) 09:39
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Of course.
I don't want to talk to others about my life and have them tell me what I should do.
I don't want others to decide for me.

This kind of topic itself may be a way to say that you are different from others here.
I can see that you want to boast about it.

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#5
  • 倍金万
  • 2022/09/23 (Fri) 09:42
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In my case, both of my children were born here, and when they were in elementary school, I decided to move here permanently because I thought that returning to Japan would cause them a lot of pain.

At that point, I decided to bury my bones here, without thinking of returning to Japan to lead an elegant life in my old age.

Therefore, the thought of "Japan or the U.S. ? in my old age" has never occurred to me. I feel nostalgia for the time when I was born and raised in Japan, so I make a trip to Japan once a year to see old friends and to visit rural areas with unique Japanese nature to heal my mind. I am only doing this after I have made enough money in this area.

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#11
  • クロネコ
  • 2022/09/24 (Sat) 00:02
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I guess in life, those who have made a fortune are the ones who win.

I have about 10 more years to go, and if money is not a problem, I would like to return to Japan completely as I can stand the intense heat. Like #10, I no longer find American life attractive.
I am tired of trying to like a country I don't like.

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#12
  • 2022/09/24 (Sat) 01:42
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> I often hear in the news about caregivers roughing them up and killing them
but in the U.S. it seems to be a daily occurrence and not newsworthy.

No, I think it's the other way around
America is so strict that if there is any kind of abuse, the license is immediately revoked
You can immediately sue in court.

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#13
  • ピンキリ
  • 2022/09/24 (Sat) 04:59
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In the U.S., so-called "endowments" are all over the map, depending on the amount of money they cost. Of course, I think it is the same in Japan, but as a matter of fact, I think there is a problem with Kiri in the U.S.
My husband was seriously injured and had an operation at Kaiser, and for his rehabilitation, he was sent to a place that was also an endowment ?. The rehabilitation center and the endowment ward were separated, but when he went to the rehabilitation ward, he had to go through a passageway in front of the endowment. In that corridor, elderly people, probably with dementia, were lined up in the corridor, sitting in wheelchairs with belts preventing them from standing on their own. I think it is because they might be in danger of falling down if they stand up on their own, and also because they might not be able to go anywhere on their own. But there were 7 ~ 8 such elderly people in wheelchairs sitting with the backs of their wheelchairs against the wall in the hallway.

My husband was supposed to stay at that facility for two months. I walked past it every day on my way to my husband's hospital room. Old men would reach out to me and talk to me. In non-sentence English 。。。。 I didn't know them at first, but I couldn't help but look at them while my husband was doing his rehabilitation because the rehabilitation room was near there. I observed that the nurse would come to give them medicine when it was time to go. They all had to go to the bathroom at the same time. Those who could eat by themselves were taken to a place like a cafeteria for lunch. Those who could eat by themselves were taken to a place like a cafeteria, and those with limited mobility were fed by the nurses. There seemed to be a routine for the elderly in wheelchairs. The nurses seemed to be performing their tasks rather than taking care of them. I was very scared as we passed by these wheelchair-bound old men. The nurses would not even look at the old men when they reached out and complained about something. They just seemed to be doing their job, giving him his medicine when it was time to take it, and so on. I wonder if the family knows about this kind of thing.

I thought to myself, "If I am going to be in a nursing home, it should definitely be in Japan. At the very least, I felt that I would be taken care of in a more compassionate way. But it's in Japan.... ?
Of course, there are places in the U.S. where you can get better care if you pay a lot of money, but
I have seen such a chilling experience that it is still burned in my mind.
After 3 weeks I couldn't stand the situation and Kaiser switched me to another care facility that only does rehab...

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